My wildsync test with super 8 camera

[jukkasil]

Here is a one wildsync test I made during this Summer (sorry about Finnish language in it, but you'll get the point):

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/wildsync.mpg
The test was really successful (except my ugly face! [img]redface.gif[/img] ).

The super 8 camera was Bauer S 715 XL (Porst 1500). I recorded the sound with my mini-dv camera with its own microphone. I wanted to keep that test as basic as possible, that's why I didn't use for example my DAT-tape recorder and better mic.

After transfered footage with my Workprinter, I slow it 4 % (shot with 24 fps, the speed now suitable for 25 fps), then I import the sound track from my mini-dv material, put hand clap sound in right place and that's it!

The lenght of footage is about 13 second.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 18, 2002 12:34 AM: Message edited by: jukkasil ]</font>

[Brian Maier]

That looks pretty good, but what language were you speaking? haha

[rollemfilm]

wild sync is tricky. but, you should be able to do better than 13 seconds. since you used a video camera for your sound, it must be the camera that is drifting. you might consider buying a camera with a more solid drive system. i have had great luck with the Canon 814E and the 514xl-S models. average sync i have had is about 60 sec. but it's not uncommon to acheive a 90 sec to 2 minute sync. use fresh batteries of good quality. always warm the camera up with a different set of batteries. also, you may have achived better sync than you realize. you may have slowed the audio too much. or, you just may need to experiment and find the right a/v ratio.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 18, 2002 06:43 AM: Message edited by: rollemfilm ]</font>

[jukkasil]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by rollemfilm:
wild sync is tricky. but, you should be able to do better than 13 seconds</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

You probably misunderstood me. This wasn't my point at all.

Well, that was just my first wild sync test, my wife shot it and I told her to cut it, when I told her to do so.

I won't keep it rolling more than about 20 seconds. I belive I can shoot much longer shots without loosing the sync and I'll now do them after this test and especially with that camera.

The reason why I put this to the net, was simply, I haven't seen many of these kind of test samples, so I made my own test, that's it.

We had that Finnish 8/16 mm forum 7th of September meeting where one guy (he uses here nickname "mikko") showed his wild sync test he managed to keep sound in sync during the whole K40 cartridge!

Anyway, I have planed to shoot some music videos with lip sync, so the lenght of takes isn't big thing at all.

I can handle my cases by shooting short takes and by this way to keep them much easier in sync.

[jukkasil]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Brian Maier:
That looks pretty good, but what language were you speaking? haha</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Finnish language, I live in Finland, at North Europe (Scandinavian).

[rollemfilm]

just trying to be helpful. i have shot a good deal of wild sync. i have grown to like the limitaions. about 30 percent of my shots stay in sync for an entire cart.

[mattias]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The reason why I put this to the net, was simply, I haven't seen many of these kind of test samples</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

cool, here's another one, from my short film soon at a festival near you. i had to stretch the audio by 5% instead of the expected 4% to get a perfect match, so i guess my camera was a little slow.

qt6 required (yes, i could have used qt 5 or even 3, but i want everybody to upgrade).

http://www.d.kth.se/~d92-mas/wild.mov

/matt